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CHS Research News
Volume 16, Issue 3
Summer 2004
 

Feature Article

Women's health research at CHS: 
A conversation with four investigators about hormone therapy research in the post-WHI era

By Katie Saunders

How does the recently formed Women’s Health Investigator Program at Group Health Center for Health Studies define the scope of its work?

"Anything but prostate cancer," jokes CHS Senior Investigator Andrea LaCroix, PhD. Meanwhile, a review of the Center’s research portfolio shows that her remark is actually quite insightful. CHS scientists are studying a number of "equal opportunity" conditions (diabetes, colorectal cancer, cardiovascular disease, Alzheimer’s disease, back pain) that affect women and men in roughly equal numbers. Many of the other subjects under investigation disproportionately affect women, such as breast cancer, osteoporosis, domestic violence, depression, urinary incontinence, sexually transmitted diseases, and urinary tract infections. And, completing the Center’s portfolio are several conditions that only impact women, such as menopause, uterine fibroids, and ovarian cancer.

While not every investigator with work connected to women’s health is a member of the Women’s Health Investigator Program, those who care to define themselves as "women’s health researchers" are welcome to join the group’s monthly meetings to share perspectives and expertise. The composition of the group was largely determined by "who wanted to sit down at the table," according to CHS Assistant Investigator Diana Buist, PhD.

Members from CHS are Buist, LaCroix, Katherine Newton, PhD, and Delia Scholes, PhD (See biographies.) The University of Washington (UW) membership consists of Linda LeResche, ScD, a health services researcher focusing on gender and hormone issues related to facial pain; Jennifer Melville, MD, MPH, an OB/GYN physician interested in the connection between urinary incontinence and depression; and Susan Reed, MD, an OB/GYN physician whose research focuses on menopause.

Women’s health research has been thriving at CHS since long before the formation of the Women’s Health Investigator Program. The Center’s first external grant, received in 1985, dealt with the long-term effects of tubal sterilization. Twenty years later, women’s health research accounts for $30 million in research funding over the next several years—and this is according to a relatively restrictive definition. Much of this funding can be traced to the CHS members of the Women’s Health Investigator Program—Buist, LaCroix, Newton, and Scholes—who, among them, have more than 50 years of research experience at CHS and a rich history of collaboration.

For this article, we invited these four CHS investigators to share their insights about research into the use of hormone therapy before and after the Women’s Health Initiative (WHI) randomized trial of estrogen-plus-progestin therapy was stopped in 2002. Their informal conversation begins with Buist, LaCroix, and Newton. Scholes joins the conversation later on.

By way of background, Buist, LaCroix, and Newton have studied hormone therapy for more than ten years. In the mid-1990s, as part of the EnPOWER project, the three researchers surveyed patients and providers about their attitudes and beliefs surrounding hormone therapy, and also developed and tested a workbook designed to help postmenopausal women make an informed decision about short- and long-term hormone therapy use.

At the time of EnPOWER, hormone therapy was widely used to treat menopausal symptoms, such as hot flashes and night sweats. While use of hormone therapy for symptom relief was typically short-term, some women took hormone therapy indefinitely in light of persuasive evidence that the medication, through its maintenance of bone density, helped prevent fractures. By the mid-1990s, the case for long-term use of hormone therapy was bolstered by findings from several observational studies suggesting that hormone therapy might protect women against heart attacks. However, this positive message was tempered somewhat by results from other observational studies indicating that long-term hormone therapy use might increase a woman’s risk of developing breast cancer. Thus, according to the weight of the evidence in the mid-1990s, long-term use of hormone therapy appeared to be a mixed bag.

However, until 1998, all of the studies that had evaluated the long-term effects of hormone therapy were observational. These types of studies can be problematic because it’s impossible to fully adjust for differences between users and non-users of hormone therapy. So, if hormone therapy users tended to be healthier at the outset than non-users—the so-called "healthy user bias"—results of observational studies would be skewed in favor of hormone therapy. In contrast, a randomized trial design means that women are assigned by chance to take hormone therapy (or not), negating the bias inherent in observational studies.

In 1998, the Heart and Estrogen/Progestin Replacement Trial (HERS) showed that, in the first year of hormone therapy use, postmenopausal women with established heart disease were at a 50 percent increased risk of recurrent coronary disease. And in 2002, the Women’s Health Initiative (WHI) randomized trial of estrogen-plus-progestin therapy was stopped early because the risk-benefit ratio did not justify continuing women on combination hormone therapy. The study found that long-term hormone therapy use among women aged 50–79 increased the risk of breast cancer, heart attack, and stroke, and reduced the risk of colorectal cancer and fractures.

These WHI results led to two hormone therapy "diffusion" studies at CHS—that is, studies comparing trends in hormone therapy use before and after release of the WHI findings in 2002. (See Newton and Buist biographies.) And, the dark shadow cast on hormone therapy by the HERS and WHI trials has heightened interest in Newton’s trial of alternative therapies for menopausal symptoms (HALT). (See Newton biography.)

Katie Saunders: What are some of your research highlights?

Katherine Newton: All three of us worked on the EnPOWER study. I think we did a lot of really ground-breaking work as part of that study, looking at attitudes, beliefs, and practices around hormone therapy. We interviewed women and providers. We looked at pharmacy data. Over a series of years, it was an extremely comprehensive look at practices around this issue and I think it’s a really nice body of work.

Diana Buist: It seems to me like a lot of work has come from EnPOWER. For example, some of the HALT work.

Katherine: Yes, it was EnPOWER that provided the data about alternative therapies. That enabled us to have some important preliminary data when we came to propose the HALT study.

Andrea LaCroix: And definitely the hormone therapy diffusion work that you’re doing.

Katie: What prompted your interest in hormone therapy in the first place?

Andrea: I think it was the fervor for hormone therapy treatment that was just running rampant in the 1990s, don’t you?

Katherine: Yeah. It was highly used. There was a lot we didn’t know about it. There was a huge impetus to get more women to take it, which in some ways was the impetus for finding out about attitudes. Some health care providers were vigorously encouraging women to take it and a lot of women were really resistant and we didn't know why. The docs were very persistent and we weren’t sure we knew the why of that either. In the beginning, it was sort of trying to understand what was going on there. Who was doing what and why?

Andrea: To be honest, I think it started with your [Katherine’s] dissertation.

Katherine: Andrea was my advisor. I wanted to do something on women and heart disease and I wanted to do something different. Finally, I came into Andrea’s office one day and I said, "What about secondary prevention?" That is, hormone therapy use in women who already had had a heart attack. Andrea looked at me and said "That’s it." Finally, we had a topic.

Katie: Ten years later, are you surprised at the state of the knowledge about hormone therapy—that some of the observational studies may have been wrong?

Andrea: I don’t think we thought anything was going to be bad about hormone therapy except for what we already knew about gallbladder disease and maybe breast cancer.

Katherine: We were a little iffy about breast cancer because those data were a little squishy at the time.

Andrea: Until HERS came out, I don’t think we had a sense that there was a revolution afoot.

Katherine: And people really discounted HERS for various reasons. It was really not until WHI came out that the bomb dropped. Even then, my read on that was that everything is in the expected direction except for heart disease.

Andrea: And stroke—before WHI there wasn’t any evidence of either a protective effect or increased risk.

Diana: But there had always been the thought that there’s been a healthy user bias related to hormone therapy. That was the unquantifiable.

Andrea: Yes. You [Diana] did work on that in EnPOWER. That’s what you wrote about: Were the long-terms users of hormone therapy different before they ever got to be long-term users?

Katie: A recent article in The New York Times reported that the drop-off in hormone therapy use might be bottoming out. Do you think it’s going to start going the other way now?

Diana: Our preliminary data in the hormone therapy diffusion project--we don’t go very far out--look as though we had a really dramatic drop and then use started to rise again. Then our data stop.

Katherine: There’s a lot of resistance on the part of certain members of the physician community to accept the WHI results. They’re having a lot of trouble giving it up.

Andrea: I really think there’s a resistance-to-change element among a lot of people. But I think that will go away after awhile. Like the end of any fad, it takes awhile to die off. And this one was particularly long. Just to get out on the edge a bit, there has been an element of sexism in the growth of hormone therapy. And that came out, much to my amazement, after the WHI data were published. There’s this book published in the 1960’s called Forever Feminine that Wyeth [the manufacturer of the most commonly used form of hormone therapy] paid a doctor to write. And there was this campaign that was incredibly sexist about women needing this medicine to be fit to live with and to stay young and attractive. You have to stay in touch with that because a lot of the resistance that’s coming now is coming from older men.

Katie: Do you think the resistance is coming more from male than female providers?

Andrea: That’s a researchable question and we should look at that in Katherine’s new grant.

Katherine: But there will always be women who have sufficient menopausal symptoms that they will want to take hormone therapy. I run into people in all walks of my life. When they find out what I do, they want to talk about it. And some of them are just miserable. They’re 48 or 50 and they’re sweating in their boardroom meetings and they can’t stand it.

Andrea: Unless we find something that works differently or better.

Katherine: So, I think there will always be those women. But the difference now is they’re more frightened to take hormones. They want to take it just as long as they need to, and no longer, rather than thinking of it as a long-term thing.

Andrea: Regarding the "getting-off" issue—I think in some ways you’re just delaying the agony. We’re studying the WHI women who came off placebo and who came off active pharmacotherapy. They were the same at the beginning—many of them did not have any symptoms at all—but when they come off, if they’re on active therapy, they’re not feeling good. So I think it actually causes you to have some estrogen withdrawal whenever you stop it. And for some people that’s uncomfortable, too. I think if you could figure out how to use the smallest dose needed all along, and maybe the goal isn’t to be totally symptom free but to have tolerable symptoms…

Katherine: Like a lot of women wouldn’t mind if they were warm, as long as they weren’t sweating. But we don’t know if it works like that. Whether your hot flash is your hot flash, or whether you can modulate parts of it. It’s never been looked at that way.

Katie: Hormone therapy was one of the therapies for osteoporosis prevention. What’s happening on that front after the WHI?

Andrea: I think right now the big tension in the field is whether all women need to take medicines to prevent fractures in later life. That’s what the drug companies would have you believe.

Delia Scholes (who has now joined the conversation): It’s sort of like, what should women do now?

Andrea: There’s a lot of trying to capitalize on the desire not to use hormone therapy. Again, who is at risk for the untoward effects of medicine being practiced without the evidence of long-term treatment effects? We are—the women are. One of our roles as researchers is to constantly say "Where’s the evidence for that?" and "What harm may be we be doing unknowingly?" I see a lot of our work and our satisfaction coming from advocating for women to make informed choices. And, when they don’t have the evidence to make informed choices, researchers like us are saying "Don’t necessarily push women to do things that may be hurting them." Where’s the evidence for most of what’s being done in fracture prevention at the moment? There’s good evidence for a few things and lots of extrapolation.

Delia: And lots of assumptions underlying it that women need "something."

Andrea: Women are a huge market. And our health consciousness in America makes us even more of a huge market. Part of our role is to advocate for women not to be misused.

Katie: Informed decision-making is a common theme of a lot of your research. Do you think it’s best that information come directly from the doctor or should the information be disseminated directly to women?

Delia: There’s increasing evidence in research that patient-oriented activation strategies are increasingly important and need to be implemented and evaluated.

Katie: What’s the best way to implement them?

Andrea: The hormone therapy workbook worked really well. This really just encouraged a more informed partnership between women and doctors. Doctors loved it because they didn’t have to go through and explain all this stuff. I don’t think we know all the ways. The Internet could be a great way eventually.

Delia: In our system, MyGroupHealth has a lot of potential for interventions that are patient-oriented. I think providers respond well to not having all the onus be on them to disseminate information. I don’t think they feel circumvented or threatened when patients are directly informed.

Katherine: I think at the delivery system level, they’re starting to understand that one of the ways to make changes that they want to see made is through directly accessing patients. There’s this huge statin and ace-inhibitor initiative and they’ve started doing some direct mailing. The response they’re getting is huge. They’re amazed, actually, that this might be the cheapest and most efficient way to get people to think about it. I think this is a fascinating approach that’s been way under-utilized, and in a managed care kind of situation is readily available as an approach you can use to inform people.

Andrea: And that’s why we picked that approach in the EnPOWER intervention phase. We wanted to reach the most people we could in the cheapest way. In my kid’s generation, the Internet might be the way rather than through the mail. For my grandmother’s generation, the Internet will probably never be the way.

Diana: And there’s always the mass media.

Delia: As Diana says, mass media dissemination has been shown to have effects if it’s done well, even though it’s untargeted. All you have to do, if you reach a lot of people, is to increase a small amount of response, and it’s a large effect. From the standpoint of reaching women with mass media for, say, STD prevention, that’s one option that we haven’t pursued in this country. It’s regrettable, because they have found that some mass media campaigns have had pretty big effects on HIV prevention and condom use in other countries.

Diana: Just look at WHI in contrast to HERS in response to who’s gone off hormone therapy. [A recent article in the Annals of Internal Medicine reported that WHI had a bigger impact on hormone therapy use, in part because of wider media coverage]. Katherine and I were talking about another study in which the funders expressed a concern about taking women off hormones without their providers’ explicit written consent. Katherine’s comment was that we know from EnPOWER that half of the women are already making these decisions on their own. So, women, and probably men as well, make healthcare decisions in the absence of their providers anyway. Things that come out in mass media have an opportunity to both hurt and benefit women.

Katherine: If you look at the rate in which women went off hormone therapy, you know they weren’t talking to their providers. It would have been physically impossible for the system to have absorbed that many conversations in any way—email, phone visits, whatever. It would have been a physical impossibility in that one or two month period when rates just plummeted for that to have been happening with provider conversations.

Andrea: It’s patronizing to think that women need permission from their doctor to act upon their own health. If you believe that has to be the way it is, that’s a patronizing viewpoint.

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